EPISODE 1: On Coaching – Gritty Beginnings and the Pursuit of Mastery

EPISODE 1: On Coaching – Gritty Beginnings and the Pursuit of Mastery

by | Jun 16, 2021

16 June 2021

Welcome to the inaugural episode of On Coaching! In this episode, Jason Jaggard, Janet Breitenbach, David Gerber, and Amanda Jaggard discuss the unique paths that led each of them to coaching, describing their gritty beginnings with the levity and clarity of hindsight. They discuss which attributes make for a good coach (and a bad one), the common misconceptions associated with a career in coaching, and their relentless pursuit of mastery in their craft.

They talk about the ways their lives changed by getting a coach, and Jason describes the revelatory experience of ‘latching on’ to coaching. As humans, we all seek things to latch onto. Some are more obsessive about this than others, but everyone wants something to embrace that will bring them fulfillment. And oftentimes, the things we attach ourselves to drag us down, like deadweights or rocks. Coaching, Jason describes, is like latching on to a rocket: it propels you forward in immense ways.

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Another confession: I was an English major in college but I would keep an Algebra II textbook handy because I actually loved solving for “x” and getting the dopamine hit for getting the answer right. As a leader, my “addiction to rightness” is often something that gets in the way of me achieving and accomplishing things that I want.  I get positioned on a view or perception, I begin to judge or defend and I miss out on potential opportunities that could actually exist.  I usually see it as a problem in myself that I need to fix and eliminate.

Another confession: I was an English major in college but I would keep an Algebra II textbook handy because I actually loved solving for “x” and getting the dopamine hit for getting the answer right. As a leader, my “addiction to rightness” is often something that gets in the way of me achieving and accomplishing things that I want.  I get positioned on a view or perception, I begin to judge or defend and I miss out on potential opportunities that could actually exist.  I usually see it as a problem in myself that I need to fix and eliminate.

Another confession: I was an English major in college but I would keep an Algebra II textbook handy because I actually loved solving for “x” and getting the dopamine hit for getting the answer right. As a leader, my “addiction to rightness” is often something that gets in the way of me achieving and accomplishing things that I want.  I get positioned on a view or perception, I begin to judge or defend and I miss out on potential opportunities that could actually exist.  I usually see it as a problem in myself that I need to fix and eliminate.

Another confession: I was an English major in college but I would keep an Algebra II textbook handy because I actually loved solving for “x” and getting the dopamine hit for getting the answer right. As a leader, my “addiction to rightness” is often something that gets in the way of me achieving and accomplishing things that I want.  I get positioned on a view or perception, I begin to judge or defend and I miss out on potential opportunities that could actually exist.  I usually see it as a problem in myself that I need to fix and eliminate.

TIMESTAMPS

1:40 – Why coaching? Why did you pick this as a career, vocation, calling?

7:48 – If a person is thinking of getting into coaching, why should they choose to coach or not choose to coach? Is there anyone you would tell, “hey, you would make a horrible coach,” and if so, what kind of person would that be?

12:10 – Jason points out contrasting opinions between Janet and Amanda: Janet got into coaching because she liked telling people what to do; Amanda says not to get into coaching if you like telling people what to do. Distinctions ensue.

13:51 – Common misconceptions about what your life looks like as a coach, and the magical, fulfilling pursuit of mastery. Jason describes the professions in which people conflate skillsets that could make a good coach. 

16:53 – What did the “humble beginnings” of this type of coaching look like; how did you discover coaching?

19:56 – They discover how not all of them were coached before becoming a coach, and the impact that had on their entry into a career in coaching. 

22:52 – In those early coaching sessions, what are the things that drew you to the coaching profession?

26:02 – In Janet’s early days as a coach, she describes which parts about getting coached she would recommend to other people, and which parts she would not recommend.

29:21 – The unique difficulty of knowing/discovering what your coaching bad habits are.

30:05 – The difference between being a good coach and pursuing mastery.

32:05 – Jason asks Janet what she was charging back when she first started coaching, and poses an interesting metaphor behind the ethics of charging for coaching services.